Sinch Army

Chester Taylor is over the hill and is only a *decent* option as a #2 back. Reach into the grab-bag of rookies or free agents and you'll get better production than Taylor. He had the opportunity to be Minnesota's RB for a few years. They drafted AP because he couldn't get the job done.

I love everything that's happening to Arizona right now. Losing Warner, Boldin, Dansby, and probably Rolle does not make a 10-6 team better. Seattle and St. Louis will probably suck, although I am moderately interested in what the Rams do with the draft and the McNabb storyline. If they get him, they're instantly a contender for the division. If they don't then I think it's at least a year or two before they can turn it around. I like Spagnuolo, and I think eventually he can get them fixed. But with how the NFC West looks right now, anything less than a division title I would consider an absolute failure of a regular season.

I think the Bears and Lions are just scooping up big names as quick as they can as if that makes them competitors. I don't think any of their signings so far will help them. It will still be a Green Bay/Minnesota division, even if Favre doesn't come back. I hope he does though.

I liked the Ravens last year to win the AFC, and I like it even more now.

"Aerock":

Chester Taylor is over the hill and is only a *decent* option as a #2 back. Reach into the grab-bag of rookies or free agents and you'll get better production than Taylor. He had the opportunity to be Minnesota's RB for a few years. They drafted AP because he couldn't get the job done.

I know. The Eagles need a #2 back behind McCoy and I think it would be best if he were a veteran back. That's why I wanted him. He can run, catch, and block and basically played in our offense in Minnesota. He's a less washed up Westbrook. The perfect mentor for McCoy. Alas...

"Aerock":

I love everything that's happening to Arizona right now. Losing Warner, Boldin, Dansby, and probably Rolle does not make a 10-6 team better.

It's hard to argue with that.

"Aerock":

Seattle and St. Louis will probably suck, although I am moderately interested in what the Rams do with the draft and the McNabb storyline. If they get him, they're instantly a contender for the division. If they don't then I think it's at least a year or two before they can turn it around. I like Spagnuolo, and I think eventually he can get them fixed. But with how the NFC West looks right now, anything less than a division title I would consider an absolute failure of a regular season.

Even if McNabb wound up on the Rams, they'll still definitely suck. They have no offensive line and no wide receivers and no defense. McNabb is well past being able to do it himself. I think Spagnulo is the answer at coach there, too, but he really walked into a shitty situation. They're still two years away from being a 7-9 team, let alone contending for a division. Seattle could be better because they'll be healthier, but I agree that they'll probably suck.

"Aerock":

But with how the NFC West looks right now, anything less than a division title I would consider an absolute failure of a regular season.

The Niners grab a couple O-lineman and they're in really good shape to dominate that division. I don't watch a lot of their games, but I think it's safe to assume that Frank Gore leading the league in being tackled at or behind the line of scrimmage last year wasn't all his fault.

"Aerock":

I think the Bears and Lions are just scooping up big names as quick as they can as if that makes them competitors. I don't think any of their signings so far will help them. It will still be a Green Bay/Minnesota division, even if Favre doesn't come back. I hope he does though.

I agree. I don't think the Bears or Lions look any better so far.

I never thought there was anything wrong with Sage Rosenfels, so I think the Vkings are in good shape if he has to start. If they start TJ on the other hand...

Green Bay will definitely be fine. Aaron Rodgers is an absolute beast. They need to work on that defense, though.

"Aerock":

I liked the Ravens last year to win the AFC, and I like it even more now.

That Boldin pickup was HUGE. I mean MASSIVE. Right now they look like the favorites in the AFC to me, too.

Yeah, everything about Boldin's personality and play-style just meshes perfectly with the Ravens. He'll be like the Ed Reed of their offense. I want to jump on the bandwagon early and say that Bold Prediction #1: Baltimore Ravens go to the Super Bowl.

I'm also really interested in where all these runningbacks are going to end up. Westbrook, Tomlinson, LenDale White, Thomas Jones (I think the Jets are insane to let him go to free agency, but they can recover if they just resign him), Sproles, etc. I wonder how many of the older backs (even though they're only in their early 30s) will be willing to take backup roles and who wants to start for a team. I think the Jets will resign Jones, if not, then I'd really love to see the Patriots snag him up. They hate the Jets anyway, that would be great fuel for the AFC East fire. Tomlinson would be a great spell-back for AP, but I doubt Minny wants to pay that much for a backup back unless they're absolutely convinced Favre's coming back and they want to just win it all.

I know this is borderline fantasy talk about players I should be staying quiet on, but I think Matt Schaub will have an unreal year next season. His completion percentage and rating won't be as high as the quarterback gods known as Manning and Brees, but I see a Bold Prediction #2: 4,000yard/40TD season in the works for Matt Schaub. That receiving corps is nuts and with the fall of Steve Slaton, they might be even more pass oriented now, but imagine if they forked money over for a guy like LenDale White. That would be an interesting fit.

We could almost start a thread for discussing all eight divisions.

"Aerock":

Yeah, everything about Boldin's personality and play-style just meshes perfectly with the Ravens. He'll be like the Ed Reed of their offense. I want to jump on the bandwagon early and say that Bold Prediction #1: Baltimore Ravens go to the Super Bowl.

The only thing that sucks about Boldin is that his play style gets him hurt every year. Luckily for the Ravens they're good enough that he doesn't have to healthy all year for them to win games. I think he has to be healthy come playoff time if they want to go deep, though.

"Aerock":

I'm also really interested in where all these runningbacks are going to end up. Westbrook, Tomlinson, LenDale White, Thomas Jones (I think the Jets are insane to let him go to free agency, but they can recover if they just resign him), Sproles, etc.

I don't think Sproles is going anywhere. He's a restricted free agent and San Diego offered him a high tender. With the uncapped season rules, I don't think anyone is going to be able to offer Sproles anything that San Diego can't and won't match.

I think Green Bay is a good fit for Tomlinson. He wouldn't be asked to carry load there, but could add another dimension to their offense with his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield. I could see him taking less to play for a team like that because he wants a ring so bad.

Houton needs a RB. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of these guys not named Sproles head there.

"Aerock":

I know this is borderline fantasy talk about players I should be staying quiet on, but I think Matt Schaub will have an unreal year next season. His completion percentage and rating won't be as high as the quarterback gods known as Manning and Brees, but I see a Bold Prediction #2: 4,000yard/40TD season in the works for Matt Schaub.

I don't think Matt Schaub is a secret. I had him ranked pretty high last year. The problem with him though is that he's so injury prone. He stayed healthy last year and had an awesome year, but can he do it two years in a row? He's almost like Donovan was a few years ago. He's a high risk/high reward guy. I think he can throw for 4,000 yards if he's healthy. I think there's no chance that he throws for 40 TDs. That's not a bold prediction though.

"Aerock":

That receiving corps is nuts and with the fall of Steve Slaton, they might be even more pass oriented now, but imagine if they forked money over for a guy like LenDale White. That would be an interesting fit.

I read this after typing my "Houston needs a running back" comment. Lendale White would definitely provide a power compliment to their finesse passing game. I think it could work.

Looking at the stats, I was surprised to see that Schaub led the league in yards with 4700. I didn't know that. I also was under the assumption that Manning and Brees netted 40 TDs passing, but they topped out at 34. I'm redacting my prediction and saying instead that Schaub has a 4500/35 season.

Is there a time you can remember so many great QBs playing at once? Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Schaub, Roethlisberger (last season he proved he could win games with a heavy passing assault and he already has two rings), and Favre. There was a nice Marino/Montana/Elway era in the 80s and Marino/Elway/Favre/Aikman/Young in the 90s. I think the newer penalties that are catered to protecting the quarterback and receivers are the primary reason for this, and the secondary reason is the evolution of film studies. Quarterbacks and coaches now have better tools for dissecting what a defense does and can coordinate timing patterns more effectively. The defense side of the ball can try to learn the quarterback's habits, but no matter how much they study, a good quarterback will still either find the open guy, or throw it to his best receiver. In either case, players covering have a much harder chance to break up the pass.

I think what the Jets do this season to follow up last season could play an interesting role in how defenses work. Tampa Bay kind of changed the way a lot of defenses are called with the Tampa 2. The Jets similarly could affect how defenses operate to try to limit the quarterbacks options. Getting elite man-to-man cornerbacks allows the defense to blitz more often, because the dbs can hold their man for a few seconds while the rush tries to bring down the quarterback. The Jets getting Antonio Cromartie could be big if he produces. He's a really good corner still, and I think him having to cover the #2 WR will make his job much easier.

"Aerock":

Looking at the stats, I was surprised to see that Schaub led the league in yards with 4700.

I didn't realize that. I knew he had a good year, but I didn't realize it was that good. But, he's not going to throw for more than that next year and depending on what they do with the running back position coupled with his injury risk makes him a very iffy early pick. If he played for the Eagles, I'd probably take him in the first round, though.

"Aerock":

Is there a time you can remember so many great QBs playing at once? Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Schaub, Roethlisberger...

There definitely is a lot of talent at the QB position right. There are even a lot of good young QBs who have a chance to be great playing now. I really like Joe Flacco and I think it's only a matter of time before he wins a ring. Matt Ryan could be really good. I think Stafford could be good. And maybe he's not great or young, but Carson Palmer is pretty good. Not many teams need a QB, it's crazy.

I agree that the rules and new tools definitely have a lot to do with it. I wonder what Dan Marino could have done to the record book if the rules were like this back in his prime...

"Aerock":

The Jets getting Antonio Cromartie could be big if he produces. He's a really good corner still, and I think him having to cover the #2 WR will make his job much easier.

Yeah, I liked that trade. The Jets didn't give up anything to get him and he could be the #1 guy on a lot of teams. If Sanchez grows in the offseason then they could be VERY tough next year despite losing his security blanket in Thomas Jones.

I love it when Indy and New England meet in the AFC Championship game, but now I feel like it would be cool to have a break from that this year. Sure, it hasn't happened for a couple years, but right now I think my dream championship games (obviously assuming 49ers aren't there) are Jets/Ravens and Vikings/Packers if Favre returns. If Favre doesn't return, there's no one I really like in the NFC other than the 49ers and the Eagles this year. The Saints had their year already, I hate every one else in the NFC East/Central, and don't care much about Atlanta. Jets/Ravens would be great because it's like the opposite of Indy/NE. Two powerhouse defenses going at it with decently supplemented offenses.

Thomas Jones signed with the Chiefs today, which severely hurts Jamaal Charles fantasy value. I don't like it. Jamal Charles single-handedly took my last place points league team from last place to third place in 7 weeks. Well... Ricky Williams helped a little bit too, but still, he was a big part of it.

"Aerock":

Is there a time you can remember so many great QBs playing at once? Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Schaub, Roethlisberger...

I think you're tossing around the word great a bit there. The last four I wouldn't call great. Schaub and RAPElisburger in particular.

Montana is great. Elway is great. Manning, Brees, Brady are great. There's some others I don't feel like naming. There's some nice players up there but "Great" is not just something you toss around.
Those other guys are very good, but not great.

I watched every Texans game and Schaub was a one half QB for most of the season. Play calling goes in to that and I know, but he'd have one great half and one half where he did almost nothing and he has a real problem throwing timing routes. The Steelers win percentage is off the charts when Ben throws less, so there's that... And there win percentage is even better when he doesn't crash motorcycles and rape people.

"elvato87":

I think you're tossing around the word great a bit there. The last four I wouldn't call great. Schaub and RAPElisburger in particular... The Steelers win percentage is off the charts when Ben throws less, so there's that... And there win percentage is even better when he doesn't crash motorcycles and rape people.

The Steelers have two Super Bowl wins with Ben at QB. That's probably the most important stat that you're ignoring. That's one more than Peyton Manning and one less than Brady. I used to not be sold on him either, but in the past couple years I've changed my tune on him. He's awesome and when all is said and done he'll probably have the numbers along with the rings to point towards him being great.

He has two more rape charges on him than Brady and Manning too.

Sexual assault isn't rape, and his last charge will probably soon be dropped because the chick lied. Also, if you're going to make rape jokes on an NFL thread, at least make them funny. There's nothing worse than an unfunny rape joke, except probably actual rape. You're killing the conversation.

The Bengals made the right choice in signing Antonio Bryant instead of T.O. Bryant isn't the most stable receiver either, but if you're going to get another questionable locker room guy it better be the one that isn't completely washed up.

I don't understand why the Browns are supposedly giving up on Brady Quinn. The dude has never had any weapons or a decent offensive line. After he got benched last year he came back in and was playing better and they won a couple games. Mangini installed a new offense and he wasn't going to master it right away. I think I'm clearly a minority, but I feel like he could still be a successful QB in this league and could be for the Browns if he had some weapons. But, maybe the suits in Cleveland know something that I don't about the guy.

I read that the Eagles signed Marlin Jackson today. I read that and immediately thought, "Who the hell is Marlin Jackson?" So, I read up on him and I'm not impressed. I'm supposed to be excited for a guy who blew out each of his knees in consecutive seasons? How is it that we're in an uncapped year and the Eagles are spending no money whatsoever? I know what they're going to do. They're going to trade out of the first round of the draft and then pick an offensive or defensive lineman in the second round, ignoring their desperate need at linebacker. Then they'll go into the year starting Akeem Jordan at linebacker and I'll point out every week how often he's out of position and how often he misses tackles and is the worst starting linebacker I've ever seen.

Apparently Kevin Faulk will never retire. But, he's already the best Faulk.

"Aerock":

Sexual assault isn't rape, and his last charge will probably soon be dropped because the chick lied. Also, if you're going to make rape jokes on an NFL thread, at least make them funny. There's nothing worse than an unfunny rape joke, except probably actual rape. You're killing the conversation.

What's a funny rape joke? I'm not really good with rape jokes. "20 No's and a yes is still a yes?" Wait, that wouldn't be rape... Need help man. Is rape even a funny topic? I'd argue it's hilarious. But I don't know any good rape jokes. Rob, you seem like you know a lot about rape, help me out.

"elvato87":

Rob, you seem like you know a lot about rape, help me out.

I don't know any good rape jokes because women only say yes to me, but Louis C.K. has a funny rape bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnXtGINeDK0


Now back to football, I think LDT will help out Sanchez next year and the Jets are going to be tough again. Ol' Dirty now has a reliable check down back and that makes him a little more dangerous.

Even their own players hate Dallas.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Patrick-Crayton-wants-out-of-Dallas-and-he-m?urn=nfl,244507

Even McNabb's own fan base hated him... Now he's gone... swish...

"elvato87":

Even McNabb's own fan base hated him... Now he's gone... swish...

I don't know any Eagles fans that hated him. Besides, how do you feel about T.O.? How about Roy Williams the safety? Roy Williams the receiver?

It looks like it's going to go... OOOOH, REJECTED! And the crowd chants his name! RC! RC! RC!

"RCSoul":

[quote="elvato87"]Even McNabb's own fan base hated him... Now he's gone... swish...

I don't know any Eagles fans that hated him. Besides, how do you feel about T.O.? How about Roy Williams the safety? Roy Williams the receiver?

It looks like it's going to go... OOOOH, REJECTED! And the crowd chants his name! RC! RC! RC! [/quote]

I feel like I could care less about T.O. and Roy oh and Roy 2 was 3-0 against the Eagles last year... Rebound... SLAM... VATO... VATO!!!!

"elvato87":

I feel like I could care less about T.O. and Roy oh and Roy 2 was 3-0 against the Eagles last year... Rebound... SLAM... VATO... VATO!!!!

Why don't you care less about T.O.? Personally, I couldn't care less about T.O. I think he's a terrible person and a cancer and I would be completely unaffected if he were to die tomorrow.

You love Roy Williams. He's your favorite safety ever. Admit it.

The Cowboys were 3-0 against the Eagles last year. Roy Williams was 3 for 3 for shitty games against the Eagles, though. I guess that's something.

The Eagles defense still sucks. They didn't do enough to improve the linebackers. Akeem Jordan will likely still start next year, which means I'll do a lot of screaming about how terrible he's playing. I think we can expect to see the Cowboys win the division next year. The NFC looks weak. The Cowboys have a shot to go the Super Bowl and lose to the Colts, Jets, or Ravens. That said, I hate them and wish terrible things to happen to Miles Austin and Jason Witten. Every day I pray for God to break their legs or something.

I doubt God cares about football. If he exists, I'm sure he's got more important business to attend to.

That being said, I don't see Dallas in the Super Bowl. I have questions about Doug Free at Tackle and if you can't protect your QB, then it doesn't matter how many weapons you have. I don't see Dez Bryant making up 31 points (That's the margin of victory for Minnesota in the playoff game). If Favre comes back, I still like Minnesota in the super bowl to lose prolly on a Favre INT (or series of INTs).

I think the Giants might be a bit better this year and that coordinator will have them blitzing again instead of all that drop back into coverage bullshit. Plus, if they stay healthy they could win the division. While the Eagles may be down, I really like Kolb (Note: Bias, I go to University of Houston) and they should be able to stay competitive. Watch the difference McNabb makes in Washington, with a defense like that and a HOF QB, I like their chances of being in the chase.

I really think SD is still in the race for a super bowl bc of the way Rivers has developed. I love Ryan Matthews and adding a RB like that to an already strong offense that helped win 13 games makes a differnce, I still see them having a shot but yes, I like the Jets.

Somehow, I don't see Bolden getting Baltimore over the hump and into the Super Bowl and I can't really say why. I just don't think that defense is as good as it was before and I don't see them beating the Jets but again, can't really say why.

I'm the only person on the planet that thinks Leinhart will do well in Arizona... there's prolly a reason for that. Mostly I just don't want to see the Cardinals suck anymore b/c they've been bad for so long i tend to root for them to not be shitty again. But summer screws me up b/c if you're paying attention I just said I'm not feeling like Baltimore is a Super Bowl team but I still like Arizona... yeah, that'll change I'm not that insane... But I have a feeling Arizona will still hang around.

Does anybody else like Ray Rice as an MVP candidate?

And I think the Bengals have another good season. Odom is returning and they can win if they stay healthy especially with Pitt out. Baltimore is my division winner, but Cincy should still be able to make a run at a wild card.

This is it for Houston. They make the playoffs this year. Kubiack has to go otherwise.

"elvato87":

I doubt God cares about football. If he exists, I'm sure he's got more important business to attend to.

What more important than injuring Dallas Cowboys players? I can't think of anything...

"elvato87":

That being said, I don't see Dallas in the Super Bowl. I have questions about Doug Free at Tackle and if you can't protect your QB, then it doesn't matter how many weapons you have. I don't see Dez Bryant making up 31 points (That's the margin of victory for Minnesota in the playoff game). If Favre comes back, I still like Minnesota in the super bowl to lose prolly on a Favre INT (or series of INTs).

Favre is an absolute guarantee to single-handedly lose you a playoff game. As long as he is their QB, I don't like their chances. Favre has spent his career doing dumb shit for no reason, there's no reason to think he'll change now. I guess he's a better option than TJ, but that isn't saying much.

"elvato87":

I think the Giants might be a bit better this year and that coordinator will have them blitzing again instead of all that drop back into coverage bullshit. Plus, if they stay healthy they could win the division. While the Eagles may be down, I really like Kolb (Note: Bias, I go to University of Houston) and they should be able to stay competitive. Watch the difference McNabb makes in Washington, with a defense like that and a HOF QB, I like their chances of being in the chase.

I don't think the Giants did enough to fix their hole filled defense and they're still sportin bum-ass Eli Manning behind center. I think they finish no higher than 2nd in the division.

The Redskins are a little scary this year with McNabb, but he's past the point where he can carry a team by himself and a lot of their potential success is going to rest on their unproven O-line and young receivers.

I think the offense for the Eagles is going to score points. Kolb proved last season that he doesn't suck, setting a record for being the first rookie to put up 300+ yards and 2+ TDs in his first two starts. But, that defense is still not very good. Every awesome tight end they play is still going to have a field day. Fun fact: The Eagles allowed more completions and yards to tight ends than any other NFL franchise last season.

The division is kind of up in the air, but on paper your Cowboys look like the best team in the division.

"elvato87":

I really think SD is still in the race for a super bowl bc of the way Rivers has developed. I love Ryan Matthews and adding a RB like that to an already strong offense that helped win 13 games makes a differnce, I still see them having a shot but yes, I like the Jets.

I just don't like the possible karmic effects of then releasing LT, especially when he carried them down the stretch last season.

"elvato87":

Somehow, I don't see Bolden getting Baltimore over the hump and into the Super Bowl and I can't really say why. I just don't think that defense is as good as it was before and I don't see them beating the Jets but again, can't really say why.

Joe Flacco was putting up mad points on teams without a marquee receiver. Just think what he can do with a tough receiver like Boldin. But yeah, I think the Jets are the favorite in the AFC and to win it all.

"elvato87":

I'm the only person on the planet that thinks Leinhart will do well in Arizona... there's prolly a reason for that. Mostly I just don't want to see the Cardinals suck anymore b/c they've been bad for so long i tend to root for them to not be shitty again. But summer screws me up b/c if you're paying attention I just said I'm not feeling like Baltimore is a Super Bowl team but I still like Arizona... yeah, that'll change I'm not that insane... But I have a feeling Arizona will still hang around.

I don't think Matt Leinart is going to suck next season. I looked at his stats when he was starting and they weren't terrible. They just weren't what Kurt Warner did with that offense. They're not going to finish last in that division, but I think they've lost too much on both sides of the ball to hold back the Niners.

"elvato87":

Does anybody else like Ray Rice as an MVP candidate?

I think the presence of Boldin is going to hurt his chances, but I'm not completely counting him out. Dude is good.

"elvato87":

And I think the Bengals have another good season. Odom is returning and they can win if they stay healthy especially with Pitt out. Baltimore is my division winner, but Cincy should still be able to make a run at a wild card.

They were a different team after Rey Malaluga got hurt. If he doesn't come back as strong from that broken ankle, then they could easily find themselves falling behind the Ravens and Steelers in the standings and home come January.

"elvato87":

This is it for Houston. They make the playoffs this year. Kubiack has to go otherwise.

I don't see it. Tennessee looks poised to make a run at that division's crown and the Colts still have Peyton Manning. I see another disappointing 8-8 or 9-7 season looming for them.

I hate to see LT in a Jets uniform but I think the Chargers kinda had to do it. He just didn't do enough for them last year.

The second honey moon ends for Vince Young this season. I think Vince Young really sucks... hard. So, I still like Houston, a city which BTW is full of black people who every fucking day say that Schaub is terrible and they should have drafted Vince Young b/c not only is he black but he's from Houston and went to UT. The fact that Schaub is way better never enters the conversation. It would shock you how many people from Houston, of all races, hate, and I mean really hate Matt Schaub. They wanted to boycott (Can't make this up- it's too good) the Pro Bowl b/c Schaub got in. While I made mention before that his stats are a bit misleading b/c he was a one half QB for nearly every game, he's still one of the best young QB's in the league and they HATE him. Blows my mind dude.

Also, doesn't look good for Vegas right now, Rob

"elvato87":

It would shock you how many people from Houston, of all races, hate, and I mean really hate Matt Schaub. They wanted to boycott (Can't make this up- it's too good) the Pro Bowl b/c Schaub got in. While I made mention before that his stats are a bit misleading b/c he was a one half QB for nearly every game, he's still one of the best young QB's in the league and they HATE him. Blows my mind dude.

Yeah, Schaub is good. He's definitely one of the top 10 QBs in football and right now Vince Young certainly is not. But, I'm not as down on Vince Young as you are. I don't think he's where he needs to be yet, but he's still young enough that he can improve and get there. He's certainly athletic enough to win games right now, much like young Michael Vick was, but hopefully he works a little harder and doesn't coast on natural ability. I think he has the potential to be an elite QB.

"elvato87":

Also, doesn't look good for Vegas right now, Rob

That sucks. Well, I don't plan on moving any time in the next couple years, so let me know if you ever pop in town and we'll grab a beer.

I'll be in Pennsylvania in October. I know you sometimes head out that way, if you end up there again at that time we can hang. Otherwise, December/January looks like the soonest it'll happen.

"elvato87":

I'll be in Pennsylvania in October. I know you sometimes head out that way, if you end up there again at that time we can hang. Otherwise, December/January looks like the soonest it'll happen.

That's kind of funny. I'm getting married in Philadelphia in October, so I may just be out that way when you are. When are you going to be out there?

"RCSoul":

[quote="elvato87"]I'll be in Pennsylvania in October. I know you sometimes head out that way, if you end up there again at that time we can hang. Otherwise, December/January looks like the soonest it'll happen.

That's kind of funny. I'm getting married in Philadelphia in October, so I may just be out that way when you are. When are you going to be out there?[/quote]

Mid to late October and I'll be in Phili around that time some weekend. I'll be in Harrisburg and then off to Phili one weekend and somewhere else another weekend to cover high school football.

"elvato87":

Mid to late October and I'll be in Phili around that time some weekend. I'll be in Harrisburg and then off to Phili one weekend and somewhere else another weekend to cover high school football.

Oh, well then we'll miss each other. I'll be there the first week in October. Eh, maybe next year.

I'll be there in like the last week of September

"Aerock":

I'll be there in like the last week of September

Where? Philly or Vegas?

Not Philly specifically, but the east coast generally. Will spend at least a day or two in Philly, but I'm not sure when yet.

"Aerock":

Not Philly specifically, but the east coast generally. Will spend at least a day or two in Philly, but I'm not sure when yet.

Well, I'll probably miss your visit there, too. I'm probably going to wind up being tied up with family stuff most of the week I'm in Philly anyway, so maybe it's for the best that I'm missing you guys.

Check out my sports blog if you guys are interested.

http://dannymatajr.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... spitality/ ‎

"elvato87":

Check out my sports blog if you guys are interested.

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I read that first post. I like Houston, but Tennessee looked like a completely different team last season when Vince Young was the QB. I think Tennessee is going to press for a playoff spot and Houston is going to be on the outside looking in once again. Besides, we all know that Schaub is probably going to get hurt. That's kind of what he does best. And Steve Slaton could be healthier this year, but there's no word yet on if he's been cured of fumblitis.

I don't think anyone's arguing with Indy winning that division as long as Peyton's behind center for them. If you look up consistency on dictionary.com you're forwarded to Peyton Manning's Wikipedia page.

"RCSoul":

[quote="elvato87"]Check out my sports blog if you guys are interested.

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I read that first post. I like Houston, but Tennessee looked like a completely different team last season when Vince Young was the QB. I think Tennessee is going to press for a playoff spot and Houston is going to be on the outside looking in once again. Besides, we all know that Schaub is probably going to get hurt. That's kind of what he does best. And Steve Slaton could be healthier this year, but there's no word yet on if he's been cured of fumblitis.

I don't think anyone's arguing with Indy winning that division as long as Peyton's behind center for them. If you look up consistency on dictionary.com you're forwarded to Peyton Manning's Wikipedia page.[/quote]

Thanks for reading bro. I think Slaton's fumbling had a lot to do with the injury to his neck. I like him to rebound this year. I'm just not sold on Vince Young...

"elvato87":

Thanks for reading bro. I think Slaton's fumbling had a lot to do with the injury to his neck. I like him to rebound this year. I'm just not sold on Vince Young...

No prob.

You could be right about Slaton's fumbling being because of his injury, but it is still a legitimate question mark. I don't see what's not to like about Vince Young. He's a smarter, slightly less athletic Michael Vick. Like the early Michael Vick, it may not be pretty, but the dude just finds way to win. He's already better than at least half of the starting QBs in the league and he has the potential to be a whole lot better.

"RCSoul":

[quote="elvato87"]Thanks for reading bro. I think Slaton's fumbling had a lot to do with the injury to his neck. I like him to rebound this year. I'm just not sold on Vince Young...

No prob.

You could be right about Slaton's fumbling being because of his injury, but it is still a legitimate question mark. I don't see what's not to like about Vince Young. He's a smarter, slightly less athletic Michael Vick. Like the early Michael Vick, it may not be pretty, but the dude just finds way to win. He's already better than at least half of the starting QBs in the league and he has the potential to be a whole lot better.[/quote]

Honestly I think Vick was better. Vince looked better last year but he was a one read QB all the way through his days at Texas and now he's gotten a little better at reading defenses but I think he'll revert back to being a sub par QB this year b/c defenses are gonna through new things at him that I'm not sure he's ready for. I don't think he's all that smart but I gotta admit, he showed me something last year. At least for right now, if you could give me pre dog fight Vick or Young I think Vick is way better and I don't think he was that great either. We'll see. I'm just not sold quite yet but you're right, he has a lot of potential.

"elvato87":

Honestly I think Vick was better. Vince looked better last year but he was a one read QB all the way through his days at Texas and now he's gotten a little better at reading defenses but I think he'll revert back to being a sub par QB this year b/c defenses are gonna through new things at him that I'm not sure he's ready for. I don't think he's all that smart but I gotta admit, he showed me something last year. At least for right now, if you could give me pre dog fight Vick or Young I think Vick is way better and I don't think he was that great either. We'll see. I'm just not sold quite yet but you're right, he has a lot of potential.

I think pre-prison Vick had more raw athletic ability than any player I've seen. But he never progressed beyond being anything more than athletic wonder. Young already looks more like an NFL QB to me than Vick ever did.